The 'Lighter' Side Of The Force
I still think he could be Plaguis. I know the EU is no longer Canon but it seems they are cherry picking certain items from it and if I remember correctly wasn't it implied that Plaguis was responsible for the birth of Anakin Skywaler?
But Plagueis was a Muun, if they're going to stretch to the EU I'd think they'd stick to it.
Plaguis isn't EU, his description and actions are, but he is mentioned in Revenge of the Sith as Sidious' master.
Anyone who dosn't believe by now that Snoke is indeed Darth Plagueis the Wise isn't a hard core Star Wars fan AND I agree with Michael, Plagueis is not EU and even if he was, do you really think Disney was going to actually give away any hints to people who don't read into Star Wars. Here's what I noticed about why he definitely is. -Kylo Ren while talking with Solo says "Supreme Leader is wise"-the music played while Snoke is a hologram is the same as when Sidious is telling of Plagueis's story.-Plagueis is seen in a hologram over Sidious in the book, looking to be the same size difference as he is to Ren and also sitting on a throne. - last but most obvious of all; he looks like Plagueis lol...Great job Abrams and all those who started the new saga. It is going exactly as I would've wanted it to.
Frank how do u explain Palpatine killing plaguis after training everything. It's the whole reason Palpatine wouldn't teach An akin everything
Plaguis could have faked it.
Uhm, him being a muun is not canon. He did have the power to reincarnate, so most likely he did, and hid in the outer rim for the whole end of the republic and empire.
Palpatine said himself that Plaguis knew how to cheat death. And Palpatine said he killed Plaguis in his sleep. How do we know he did not fake his death in his sleep and remained dormant for a while to make a return when the time was right? In the Star Wars world that is TOTALLY plausible...
So.... Palpatine killed a powerful Sith who learned to overcome death. Got it.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Of course he'd be interested in th Skywalkers, 'cause he's the one that started that lineage
Does anyone even entertain the fact that this guy is actually Palpatine?? The scar on his face.. This deteriorated head? I guess what I am looking for is arguments that it ISN'T Palpatine!!
The way he speaks about seeing the rise of the Empire is in a third person style. He says these things as an observer from the outside rather than an insider.
Why does he changed the name? If he were Palpi, there's no reason of changing he's name.
But didn't obi change his name to ben.
Thing is Palpatine makes mention that Plaguis hated the squabbling of politics so then why would he jump in to lead the empire remnants? Also why would they follow him? I think Grand Moff Tarkin surviving the first Death Star explosion, being next in line in power after the fall of Palpatine and Vader, already having established himself within the empire makes sense. He was never afraid of Vader which could hint at his own studying of the dark side, not having abilities but knowledge and in turn could have sought out Sith for their muscle. Starkiller isn't/wasn't canon but we see Starkiller base. Could he have found the perfect clone of Starkiller that Vader created? Is Starkiller training Kylo Ren?
EU Cannon does have the star killer (death weapon), it was desroyed in one the novels by Anakin (han's son) and Chewbakka was killed in the battle. Moff Tarkin had no ability within the force (again according to the previous cannon novels and also in the current book Tarkin). With all due respect, wrong buddy. I think the idea of a new dark lord is where they are going, unfortunately we cannot rely on any old EU cannon fodder for opinions. We will just have to wait and see on this one. I was very surprised when I watched the new film. Plaguis was killed (brutally mauled) by palatine in the novel plaguis as well.
EU Canon or not, it is IN the current movies, Revenge of the Sith Episode 3, about who plaguis was. He's not just canon, he's officially apart of the stories. He's the one that trained Palpatine and Palpatine even said so. They are Keeping everything from the movies and TV shows as canon. The only canon they are not using is the novels that were offshoots of the movie franchises. If it was in the movies or on one of the TV shows (clone wars, rebels) then it is still canon for Disneys use.
Palpatine refers to Plaguis as the tragedy of Darth Palguis the Wise. Numerous times Ren refers to Supreme leader Snoke is wise. The Supreme Leader is Wise...over and over. This isn't coincidence.
Couldn't agree more
I'm pretty sure snoke IS plagueis. Everything links up!
Could he be one of the guards who left before the second death star went up?
Ahhhhhhhhh, sorry guys. As far as plaguis is concerned its canon that hes dead. Palpatine says it himself twice throughout the movies. I couldnt find the second but heres the quote for the first.Supreme Chancellor: Remember back to your early teachings. "All who gain power are afraid to lose it." Even the Jedi.Anakin Skywalker: The Jedi use their power for good.Supreme Chancellor: Good is a point of view, Anakin. The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power.Anakin Skywalker: The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inward, only about themselves.Supreme Chancellor: And the Jedi don't?Anakin Skywalker: The Jedi are selfless... they only care about others.Supreme Chancellor: [looking a little frustrated] Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?Anakin Skywalker: No.Supreme Chancellor: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith who lived many years ago. He was so powerful and so wise that he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.Anakin Skywalker: He could do that? He could actually save people from death?Supreme Chancellor: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.Anakin Skywalker: What happened to him?Supreme Chancellor: He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, and then one night, his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic that he could save others from death, but not himself.Anakin Skywalker: Is it possible to learn this power?Supreme Chancellor: Not from a JediThe second quote has him reveal that the apprentice was in fact him.
But Palpatine is blatantly lying here, because he also states that Plagueis taught him everything he knew, which he didn't, so Palpatine isn't the best source. He is simply capitalizing on Anakin's ethos to turn him to the dark side. I think it is very possible that Plagueis was able to fake his death.
Ummm which book is he talking about in the video?
You remember in ROTJ, those weird old dudes with the funny hats in the Emperor's throne room in the Death Star? Perhaps he's one of those guys.
While i loved plagueis, its obvious snoke is an inquisitor star wars rebels style. Look at him. He looks like any generic inquisitor with scars. (possibly from Ezra Kanan) Disney will tie its Rebels characters more into the official EU. This is also my theory on Rey's parents.
Rey is either Ben Solo's sister or cousin. That's pretty much fix.
Not a sister as Han and Leia would have recognised her.
I don't get the comment about if you don't think is plaugeis you're not a fan... If you were a fan and read the books you would know, palpatine killed plaugeis. To assume the mantle of dark lord of the Sith. Got him white girl wasted and bbq his breather with force lightning. You should probably know your facts before you run your suck hole son.
Anybody know what book is being referenced in this video?
They dropped all of the details of the extended universe, so quit speculating you fucking nerds. Disney is "writing" their own version and only "borrowing" every detail that has already been written. Chewey died a long fucking time ago. You should've known better from the first big trailer. Lube up your b-holes boys, here comes the big white glove...
Like you said Disney are rewriting the Star Wars future and using the novels as a resource library for ideas although Han and Leia being married and having a child is true to the novels but with a different name, I think Rey is Luke's Daughter.
They brought back Chewbacca!...He's fucking dead! So why not Palpatine, or Qui-Gon, or Jango, or Jabba, or Padme, or Obi-Wan... At this point they can fucking re-write any story any way they want... Fuck Disney. Should have stuck to the EU, made the fans happy and introduced new fans to the glory that is the Extended Universe! Sad. And still you fucktards argue about who snoke is...
Take a shot each time he says "actually"
Anyone else think the narrator sounds like Barry Kripke from The Big Bang Theory?