Tuesday, May 3, 2016

Why Dagobah is the Ancient Naboo from Prequels

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  1. One tiny problem with this theory, we see Naboo at the end of return of the jedi (yes I know, its the special edition and NOT the original ending of the original cut but it is canon so therefore, counts)

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    1. are there... people who accept the prequel movies but not special editions? like fine, I know people get off to Han shooting first, and Hayden Christensen at the end of RotJ makes even me feel gross, but I just kinda lump disregard for SE together with disregard for prequels since they usually go hand in hand.

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    2. Another problem is that yoda goes to Dagobah at the end of episode 3... And then they showed Padme's funeral on na boo a few minutes later...

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    3. theres also you know....the fact that it would take far more time to become dagobah then what passes in between the movies... even if they are in a forest entire climates and landscapes dont change THAT quickly...

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  2. Since the OT was remastered you see footage of celebrations in Naboo, so this theory is nonsence

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    1. if you look at the youtube comments, the author says a few seconds at the end of Return of the Jedi doesn't count lol

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    2. Does that mean that when Yoda goes into exile on Dagobah and Padme's funeral on Naboo doesn't count either?

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  3. Naboo is represented by a senator in the new Republic Senate according to new Canon

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  4. Sorry I don't buy this theory at all.

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  5. A galaxy of countless systems and we only get the few shown in the movies to the point that we have to recycle them? Ludicrous. Ignorant. Bull.
    As for the idea that it has to be Naboo because Luke felt something familiar about the place? More Bull. Surely someone as strong with the force and as sensitive to it as he is would have had a few force induced dreams growing up that somehow magically turned out to be true. An untrained Luke (and Leia for that matter although it's never specifically mentioned) would have grown up with a constant nagging feeling of deja vu wherever they went.

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    1. Also I'm pretty sure the familiar feeling he had was sensing another force sensitive (Yoda). He probably had the same feeling around obiwan bu did know enough about the force to pinpoint why degobah felt familiar

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  6. You say "ancient" but it isn't thousands or even hundreds or even a hundred years since Episode I and Episode IV. That is the time it would take to even make this theory remotely plausible which wouldn't even be the case because it would take hundreds of thousands of years for the entire ecosystem of the entire planet to change so drastically from the lush green planet into a giant swamp/jungle. The entire planet would have had to have been wiped out or evacuated which we really didn't see until the Death Star. There would have been remnants of the Naboo civilizations and the Empire just letting it go wouldn't have turned into what we know as Degobah in such a short period of time. Plus like everyone has been saying, it appears in the (remastered) end of Jedi which is canon. Why Luke finds something familiar about Degobah, no one will truly know but let us not make outlandish theories over simple quotes.

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  7. You say "ancient" but it isn't thousands or even hundreds or even a hundred years since Episode I and Episode IV. That is the time it would take to even make this theory remotely plausible which wouldn't even be the case because it would take hundreds of thousands of years for the entire ecosystem of the entire planet to change so drastically from the lush green planet into a giant swamp/jungle. The entire planet would have had to have been wiped out or evacuated which we really didn't see until the Death Star. There would have been remnants of the Naboo civilizations and the Empire just letting it go wouldn't have turned into what we know as Degobah in such a short period of time. Plus like everyone has been saying, it appears in the (remastered) end of Jedi which is canon. Why Luke finds something familiar about Degobah, no one will truly know but let us not make outlandish theories over simple quotes.

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  8. Yoda landed on Dagobah at the end of Episode 3. Naboo was still alive and well then!

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  9. The BIG problem is Yoda went to Degobah when Luke and Leia were sent to their hiding places. You also see the funeral of Padme on Naboo. Now how can the planet be a swamp planet if people are still living there? Just because they don't mention a planet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Corresant wasn't mentioned either, was that planet turned into Yavin? Which by the way wasn't mentioned in episodes 1,2 & 3.

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  10. The BIG problem is Yoda went to Degobah when Luke and Leia were sent to their hiding places. You also see the funeral of Padme on Naboo. Now how can the planet be a swamp planet if people are still living there? Just because they don't mention a planet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Corresant wasn't mentioned either, was that planet turned into Yavin? Which by the way wasn't mentioned in episodes 1,2 & 3.

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  11. You know, we have more to go off of in the Star Wars universe than just the eight movies. They also had two television shows, and if you didn't know the eighth movie I was referring to was the animated one on Netflix - which is in the same continuum and is canon.

    Also, before the Empire is really a thing Yoda says in Episode 3 that he will teach Obi-Wan something (I don't remember the quote or even remotely what he says) and he means how to tap into the ability to communicate beyond the grave with the force, and he wanted him to go to Dagobah, same as Yoda did in the Clone Wars animated series, to do so. Also, that last little statement "as Yoda did in the Clone Wars...", that means that there's canon evidence that the two planets are different. End of your theory, I just sliced it in half with my lightsaber.

    Perhaps Luke says that there's something familiar about Dagobah because the planet is very pure, as Yoda puts in TCW. Dagobah is where Yoda learned how to become a spirit-like entity, so Dagobah has a ton of potential in the ways of the Force. There's also the possibility that Lucas didn't have a clue what that line was supposed to represent, because you can clearly tell that the two trilogies were not written together.

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  12. I love how you make fun of people saying naboo became the death star and then posit something equally ridiculous.

    the ending of episode 3 debunks this alone, but theres also the SE ending of episode 6

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  13. I love how you make fun of people saying naboo became the death star and then posit something equally ridiculous.

    the ending of episode 3 debunks this alone, but theres also the SE ending of episode 6

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  14. Well, if you want to call about 20 years Ancient, go ahead.

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  15. This map will prove this theory wrong. It helps to do more than five mins of research. http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-maps-charting-the-galaxy

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  16. Since much of his hypothesis rests on the idea that Luke had only been on Tatooine and Hoth. I would like to point out that he spent time on Yavin 4 as well.

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  17. Naboo in mentioned in one of the interlude chapters in Star Wars Aftermath, and that's canon.

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  18. Also Luke is a Jedi....maybe it seems familiar because the force is telling him he needs to be there.

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  19. Another Problem with this theory is that Leia visited Naboo right after A New Hope (i.e. Princess Leia Issue #2)and she visited it again after Return of the Jedi (i.e. Shattered Empire) and both were as intact as they were in Phantom Menace

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  21. Rubbish... Dagobah is supposed to be in the Sluis Sector and Naboo in the Chommel Sector ...

    http://www.swcombine.com/rules/?Galaxy_Map&sectorID=219

    http://www.swcombine.com/rules/?Galaxy_Map&sectorID=156

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  22. What's-wrong-with-the-narrator? Why-must-he-talk-like Siri? Its worse that Shatner.

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  23. Well, this video does appear on a site called "The "Lighter" side of the Force"; doesn't it? I would tend to think it's more of a humor thing? No?

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    1. probably not? as far as I can tell this site is meant to be taken more or less seriously

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  24. I agree that the theory is bull, as everyone above says. But I've always wondered why Luke says "there's something familiar about this place" - we are never told why. Anyone know?

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  25. Does this idiot work for Moviepilot? Yes, the special edition counts, and some already mentioned Yoda being shown going into exile on Dagobah and Padme's funeral on Naboo. Stop Forcing a bs theory.

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  26. It is totally bullshit! About the Luke's line it's an feeling he had through the force, and it's not about the place but about his resident Yoda! He feel the force of Yoda, I don't think it remind him when he was born, but morelikely it remind him the presence of a powerfull jedi, like ObiWan was... at this time Luke is not trained yet to understand and identify this kind of feeling, it's why it was confuse for him!

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