Monday, December 26, 2016

Why Rogue One Has Changed Darth Vader Forever

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  1. We need to keep in mind that the movies are the primary canon sources. Any EU material, which was then relegated to Legends, never held the same position in the canon. One could consider these stories to be canon, up until the point where Lucas overrode them with his own plot points.

    The issue we currently have is with the very nature of Lucas' canon being altered by the Disney productions. For instance, The Force Awakens goes in an entirely different direction than Lucas had intended, and therefore alters the meaning of Lucas' original productions. I find this highly problematic.

    With regards to the specific issue here, I believe that Lucas had been clear in multiple interviews, regarding Vader. His character is one who tried to hold on to those he held dear, with such energy and conviction, that he was willing to do things that violated his own sense of right and wrong. His primary "curse" is his perceived loss of everyone that he has held dear. His secondary "curse" is his loss of freedom. The suit embodies this, but it is merely the "tip of the iceberg". In almost every way, Anakin Skywalker as Darth Vader, has less freedom than he did as an enslaved child. He is completely enthralled to the Emperor, a man who he clearly considers to have betrayed him.

    His primary issue is with the reality that, by his own hand, he has enslaved himself to Palpatine, lost his wife (and he believes) his child(ren), and has received none of the power that he was promised. He is ashamed to the point of rage, and can see no way to redemption. He should not be considered to be a rational actor with regards to himself. Up until he saves his son, Vader does not appear to act upon his own situation with a great deal of rationality.

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    1. This is highly academic and very insightful. I feel better for reading it and appreciate you writing it.

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    2. Your second paragraph is straight up wrong. Lucas did not write the post "Return of the Jedi" expanded universe content so thus your statement about The Force Awakens not being what Lucas intended because he had something else is incorrect.

      Lucas stamped his seal of approval on the books written by essentially superfans the same way he stamped The Force Awakens and even Rogue One.

      So....no, your wrong.

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    3. You are correct that Lucas had not written any post "ROJ" material. I did not argue that point, however. Rather, I argued that Lucas did, in fact, have a direction in mind. This has been confirmed.

      Please read my statement carefully before misrepresenting it.

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  2. Much appreciated - though I'm no academic. I hold a BS in CS, and took a lot of history and literature courses as electives for the sake of my own enrichment. Had I the opportunity to go back to school, I might work on a degree in literature or music.

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  3. jeez. I thought this was going to be about the stupid one liner he threw out after force choking Director Krennic. No need to invoke obscure Extended Universe stuff, that cringe inducing terrible pun actually fundamentally changes who Darth Vader is within the Canon and it was the worst thing in the film.

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  4. "fundamentally changes who Darth Vader is within the Canon."

    Um, no. At least, no more than "apology accepted, Capt. Needa" or "perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them." Vader's dialogue has walked a fine line between menacing and arch-cum-camp before. This just pushed it into pun territory.

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  5. Very insightful and well written. Definitely agree with most or all of it. I'd love to get my hands on that book.

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